1993-02-28 - Fake ID to protect ID

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From: Matthew J Miszewski <MJMISKI@macc.wisc.edu>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1993-02-28 19:55:56 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 11:55:56 PST

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From: Matthew J Miszewski <MJMISKI@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 11:55:56 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Fake ID to protect ID
Message-ID: <23022813532303@vms2.macc.wisc.edu>
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  With regard to Thug's question about the use of false identification for legal
purposes, I did some cursory legal research on the subject.
  A search through LEXIS brings up only three cases throughout all of the
federal and state scourts.  The first case, and in fact the one most on point is
a 1991 US court of appeals case (LEXIS 219121).  In this case, the defendant
attempted to utilize the 'Thug defense' of no intent to defraud.  Unfortunately,
the court held that the actual making of false identification papers was the
illegal act and that the potential for illegal use was sufficient to merit
  There are a few possible ways a good attorney could get around this ruling
though.  First of all, the case is not a 'published' decision.  Therefore it
really holds little fmore than persuasive authority:).  Secondly, the defendant
in this case actually was involved in a conspiracy to commit illegal acts
(whereas Thug is only interested in protecting his true identity).  Finally,
there is an incredible void of case law on this specific subject.  That means
that a few cyber test cases making there way through the correct legal channels,
argued in the correct way, could start an actually legally recognized 'thug
  Unfortunately, there are other problems (legal0 with the use of false ID.
Misrepresentation can be both tortious and can be utilized to weasel out of
otherwise sufficient contracts.  For the interests on this list, it would
probably be best to balance all of your interests and only use Thug's
suggestions when you are in realistic fear of abuse of your identity.
  I will do further research on the subject (This was only a quick search).
Anyone with other legal questions (NOT people looking for legal advice per se)
that I might hellp out with (RESEARCH ONLY) mail me privately.
-  Although I may detest what you say, I will defend with my life your right to
say it  - Voltaire