1993-03-12 - FW: Hiding Encrypted Messages

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From: uri@watson.ibm.com
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1993-03-12 17:19:52 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:19:52 PST

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From: uri@watson.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:19:52 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: FW: Hiding Encrypted Messages
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-----BEGIN PRIVACY-ENHANCED MESSAGE-----
Proc-Type: 2001,MIC-CLEAR
Originator-Name: uri@watson.ibm.com
Originator-Key-Asymmetric:
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 1UnBUJx1lAEbay5o7larnOTWbVicXRfkd8cJxl4FAQ3z/O4vhNvqMqkfGPt48F1t
 O82PD1NstJ3zuMqCCSfTk/Lo3KNh2zz8oGQG8XOfK+UnGcqWhgZ2froBc4yNFlyK
 To0gYp7xKqpcLQIDAQAB
MIC-Info: RSA-MD5,RSA,
 rwr1sC6NxFTeD2RQkn1d3a9DD72bfS6RX6KvRfCERRGxlNsIbqkSciSNmHxTJPRH
 /SuFRODhd9eqhyO5a4KORoAIse/QJjgpWDY/gcUx8WmaPBLTUyImVmBUHeaWlBG6
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Stu Klingman writes:
 > Someone wrote:
 > > b) If it's played and recognized - one can trace your source (a CD, a
 > >    tape of radio broadcast, whatever) and do a comparison. Then the
 > >    file containing of all the LSBs is cryptanalyzed...
 >
 > Actually, this is not really a problem.  The odds of being able to
 > resample, even using the same source and come up with the same byte
 > string is infinitesmal.

Remember - the goal is to HIDE the fact, that there's a message!
If, having CDs and DAT tapes widely available, somebody sends
a home-brew digitized copy of it, won't it look somewhat
suspicious for KGB?  And if/when they throw you in a
nice small cell, you can explain your innocence
to the walls at infinitum (:-).

 > You've got chaos theory on your side here
 > with massive "Sensitive Dependence on Initial Conditions."

You're certainly right. But still see above.

 > Just make sure to an application like Shredder or Flamefile to
 > permanently erase your initial sample, and nobody should be able
 > to tell. (unless they are aware of the trick beforehand)

Do you mean, THEY don't monitor this forum? (:-)

Regards,
Uri.
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