1994-02-07 - Re: Some stuff about Diffie-Hellman (and more :-)

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From: “Perry E. Metzger” <pmetzger@lehman.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1994-02-07 15:56:22 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 07:56:22 PST

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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 07:56:22 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Some stuff about Diffie-Hellman (and more :-)
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Hal says:
>From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
> > Now, the tutorial over :-), the question is; is there a "standard"
> > well-known-prime, w, and a "standard" well-known-modulus, m, and if
>              ^^^^^-- generator
> > not, let's define one.
> 
> I don't think there is a need for this.  The two sides need to agree on
> a pair but they could just pick it at the beginning.  If everyone uses
> the same m,w it would help attackers of the scheme to focus their efforts
> on these numbers.

Indeed, a paper has been published on how to break Sun Secure RPC
based on the idiotic decision by someone at Sun to standardise the
modulus used. It is basically a matter of precomputing a lot of data
based on the numbers which allows you to break any particular discrete
log in that field on the fly. The suggestion by Mr. Cain to use a
single generator and modulus for all traffic is astonishingly naive.

Perry





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