1994-05-17 - [ANON]: “Why We Fight!”

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From: anonymous@extropia.wimsey.com
To: hes@unity.ncsu.edu
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UTC Datetime: 1994-05-17 08:10:24 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 17 May 94 01:10:24 PDT

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From: anonymous@extropia.wimsey.com
Date: Tue, 17 May 94 01:10:24 PDT
To: hes@unity.ncsu.edu
Subject: [ANON]: "Why We Fight!"
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[[Reply-To: john.nieder@tigerteam.org]]

 -=> Quoting Hes@unity.ncsu.edu to John Nieder <=-

 He> John,
 He> I agree with much of what you say - but I wasn't aware that rec.guns
 He> was a political discussion group.  I think that makes a difference. 

Well, no on at least a couple of counts:  First, my original anger was
piqued by the practice of killing _all_ traffic coming from remailers,
even when the posts were NOT anonymous.  I (and several other users who
have written to me about this issue) would frequently send perfectly
legitimate technical posts through remailers, with Reply-To: fields and
sigs attached, because the remailers afforded more header flexibility or
posting reliability.  These messages were all snuffed, simply because
they came through a remailer.  That's pure BS.

Secondly, a lot of folks do not feel easy about posting to ANY
gun-related list or group because of employer, social or other prejudice
to which they may be subjected.  If a joe.victim@anti-gun.widget.com
wants to use a simple remailer for putting a little shade on his
participation, I don't feel it's anyone else's business; "caution is not
cowardice and carelessness is not courage."  More importantly, it's
nobody else's _problem_ as long as the content of the post is not
objectionable.  Write this down:

======================================================================
_You have no more right to pass judgment on another's "need" for
anonymity than Sarah Brady has a right to pass judgment on your "need"
for a handgun.  Both are private matters of individual self-defense._
======================================================================

That's the important "value" issue here, irrespective of the technical
ones.  I am ashamed to see how many anti-anon RTKBA advocates can't see
the obvious parallels.

 He> (By your statements you seem to feel that makes me, as well as our
 He> Moderator, to be anti-gun.)

No, but maybe a bit parochial and in need of rethinking your definitions
of self-defense and personal freedom.

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