From: Eli Brandt <ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 May 94 23:27:18 PDT
To: cypherpunks list <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: Response to Uni's "Lawsuit" Message
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> > overseas subpoena; the user has to access the system somehow.  If
> > FBI's Big Brother Bill goes through, I can probably do this in
> > fifteen minutes.
> 
> But if it doesn't go through, I don't see how they could trace it.  My 
> call to CRL is a local call.  It might be recorded on my end, but I don't 
> think CRL's phone bill would show it.  What did you have in mind?

Maybe a telephony sort can answer this authoritatively, but I think
the phone company's logs record this information even for flat-rate
local calls.  If not, you can do almost anything with access to a
modern switch...

> > . . . since the access provider will take the heat for anything
> > coming out of the account. . .
> 
> Not necessarily.  Remember, they want the status of common carriers.  
> Open access to all, but no control of content.

This may apply to some providers -- apparently not Netcom.

   Eli   ebrandt@hmc.edu