1994-08-18 - Re: Are "they" really the enemy? (Systems commentary)

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From: joshua geller <joshua@cae.retix.com>
To: jdd@aiki.demon.co.uk
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From: joshua geller <joshua@cae.retix.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 12:27:46 PDT
To: jdd@aiki.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Are \"they\" really the enemy? (Systems commentary)
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>   > When a system is designed to organize human behavior (as in 
>   > "governing" it) it has the inherent mistake of being based on 
>   > the presumption of complete knowledge of human nature (yet who 
>   > agrees on what that comprises).

>   Only a philosopher could make such a statement.

>   A family is such a system, but it is based on no such presumption.
>   Families begin in what is usually a completely mindless activity.
>   And any honest parent of teenage children will admit that he or
>   she is almost totally ignorant of human nature.  If the parent
>   doesn't admit it, the child will let the parent know.

only a rhetor could make such a statement.

families are not designed.

I don't necessarily agree with the original statment.


josh







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