From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:56:30 +0800
To: vznuri@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: more RANTING about NSA-friendly cpunks
Message-ID: <m0tgwxW-0008xQC@pacifier.com>
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At 07:58 PM 1/29/96 +0800, Bruce Murphy wrote:
>In message <199601282104.NAA10926@netcom3.netcom.com>, 
>  "Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote:
>> 
>> >In message <199601262011.MAA17408@netcom16.netcom.com>, 
>> >  "Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> has anyone *tried* just ignoring the ITAR wrt crypto and seeing what 
>> >> would happen? the gubbermint blindly thinks that cyberspace will 
>> >> inevitably bring the wrath of four horsemen of the infocalypse, but aren't
>{snip}
>> >
>> >Zimmerman.
>>
>{snip}
>> Zimmermann supports my contention, as I wrote in the post. NOTHING
>> happened to him. it is conceivable this same result could have
>> been arrived at (government drops investigation) if he never even 
>> hired a lawyer.
>> 
>> Zimmermann is a perfect example of what may be counterproductive
>> hysteria on *our* side, toward advancing crypto. if Zimmermann
>> cannot be prosecuted, and is not prosecuted, where are the ITAR "teeth"???
>> 
>
>Nod. You may have a point there...
>
>I'll tell you what, seeing as I *can't* export cryptostuff against
>ITAR, what say *you* do it. Lots of it. And if nothing happens to you,
>well and good.
>OTOH the cause needs a few martyrs.
>Packrat (BSc/BE;COSO;Wombat Admin)

Packrat, I agree with the (likely) implications of  your (tongue-in-cheek?)
commentary.  The fact that "nothing happened to Zimmermann" is scant hope to
us.  If ITAR is causing cryptosystems to not be built, merely due to FUD
(fear, uncertainty, and doubt) then it is actively harming us.
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