1996-02-24 - Re: “consent of the governed”

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From: jf_avon@citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada))
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-02-24 00:20:20 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:20:20 +0800

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From: jf_avon@citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada))
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:20:20 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: "consent of the governed"
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"Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com> wrote:

>I tend to define government more liberally in that it does
not
>merely exist to protect rights-- 

Since it is a man-made, created entity, on what vision of
reality
would you justify the existing principles of our 
collectivistic-oriented govt?

>the 20th century saw a rise in
>government that tried to be a social force. 

     The govt consists of a few individuals.

>this may have failed, 
>but it does point out that people want a government to do
more
>than merely protect their rights.

By 'peoples', do you mean productive population at large or a 
small bunch peoples who want their wishes to come true, no
matter
how many .38 special bullets it costs?

>  in other words, the 1776 definition
>of government is reasonably slightly modified.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^
?!?!!!  Would another adjective be more appropriate?

>government in its
>essence is a form of organized human collaboration/cooperation
imho.

Yeah!  With, ultimately, a *gun* under every pile of red tape,
just 
to make you "cooperate" more easily....

>it is a nervous system for a society.

Yes!  And it has epilepsy!

JFA


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