1996-04-25 - Re: EYE_suk

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
To: cypherpunks@count04.mry.scruznet.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-04-25 01:18:41 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:18:41 -0700 (PDT)

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:18:41 -0700 (PDT)
To: cypherpunks@count04.mry.scruznet.com
Subject: Re: EYE_suk
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On Thu, 25 Apr 1996 cypherpunks@count04.mry.scruznet.com wrote:

>   >>Isn't the CIA forbidden from doing anything on US soil?

>   >Errr,
>   >That is the Feeb's department, & they guard it like the family
>   >jewels.....
>   >

>     BZZT!!! wrong answer since 1981 on december 4  when president reagan
> signed it into Executive Order #12333  TLA's(those intelligence
> agencies having strictly offshore charters CIA,NSA others) have been permitted
> to operate domestically in cases of National Security(or involvement with 
> persons suspected of being agents for foreign entities) and Drug War issues.

Only if the agents involved are attached to the FBI and report directly to
the FBI during the investigation.  Note that they were permitted about
this same amount of autonomy under 50 U.S.C. 102(d)(3).

> Formerly it was simply illegal but since the intel community had taken
> such a hard hit during the church subcommittee hearings of the 1970's
> the new tactic was to acquire legitimacy for black ops on domestic fronts
> thus the above EO was shoved under reagans nose quickly...

The above paragraph is a bit light on facts.

Actually, today to do domestic black ops you just let E-Systems handle it.
No need to use agency personal when 7/8 of E-System's employees are former
agency.  The CIA doesn't bother to do local black ops anymore.  Look to
other organizations.

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