From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:14:21 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: SAFE Forum--some comments
Message-ID: <199607030603.XAA01097@mail.pacifier.com>
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At 08:44 PM 7/2/96 -0700, Martin Minow wrote:

>It's not quite that bad. Here are a few (more or less strong) crypto
>products you might not know you have:
>
>1. Every Macintosh made since at least 1988 has a secure authentication
>   client module in the AppleShare Chooser dialog. When you use it to
>   connect to a remote server, it notes that the user information
>   is "two-way scrambled." (The server sends a random number challenge
>   that the client uses to encrypt the username and password. The
>   encrypted information is sent to the server.) All Macintosh systems
>   running System 7 or later have the corresponding server software.
>   What is interesting about this is that the encryption is completely
>   invisible to the user.

How did this affect the Macintosh's exportability?


>Note that the VCR companies have solved the vcr problem by receiving
>a timecode from a local television station -- making the problem
>invisible to the end user. We should be able to do the same with
>strong crypto.

I haven't bought a new VCR in a few years.  Is this real?  What prevented 
them from doing this 10 years ago?

Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com