From: "Greg Kucharo" <sophi@best.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:04:00 +0800
To: "Vincent Cate" <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: Anguilla - A DataHaven?
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The only ideal I can think of would be the fictional "Port Watson".  What
is you had a system that spanned countries, using the internet as a linking
device.  It would be the same service.  But when you specified the kind of
data you wanted to post, the system would route it to the appropriate
server in a country where it wasn't illegal. 

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> From: Vincent Cate <vince@offshore.com.ai>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Anguilla - A DataHaven?  
> Date: Wednesday, August 14, 1996 5:40 AM
> 
> 
> Tim:
> > Rather, there is an "archetype," if you will, of what a "remailer" is,
what
> > a "data haven" is, what a "tax shelter" is, etc. While we cannot
reasonably
> > expect a remailer to exactly match the archetype, we can point out
obvious
> > deficiencies.
> 
> 1)  Anguilla has secrecy laws.  Professional relationships are
confidential.
>     There are strong secrecy laws.  I have not given out taxbomber's
>     name, nor will I as I could face legal action if I did.
> 
> 2)  Anguilla has no sales or income taxes.  A business does not need to
>     report anything about income, sales, etc, to the government (or
anyone
>     else).  If a guy wants to sell his data and keep 100% of the profits
>     instead of 50% or 60%, then Anguilla would be a haven for him.
> 
> 3)  We don't have the same laws as other countries, so there are things
>     that can be done here.  For example, we can export encryption 
>     software.  Also, we will have bingo.com in Anguilla.
> 
> There are deficiencies from a cypherpunk or Libertarian point of view.
And
> these are interesting.  And exactly what I want to do is changing. As I
> said, Anguilla is not the datahaven of cypherpunks wet dreams.  I am sure
> there are no datahavens that match the cypherpunk concept of an ideal
> datahaven, yet. 
> 
> But I think the term DataHaven applies as well to Anguilla as any other
> place I know of.  
> 
> Tim, we would all be very happy if you were to locate a country that
could
> be the site of the ideal datahaven, and finance a couple cypherpunks to
> setup there.  It would be a big help to our cause.  Could you do this? 
> 
> In the mean time, people may have to exist in cyberspace (like
> www.taxbomber.com) without having a totally secure physical location. 
> This is not the end of the world, or really even that painful.  If done
> right you could be down for only an hour - just long enough for
> nameservers to change.  Taxbomber is now setup to do it very fast next
> time, if the need ever comes.  Tim, I think you have even advocated this
> approach, not stressing the physical location, just the cyberspace
> location.  No? 
> 
>    --  Vince
> 
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