From: JonWienk@ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 18:13:30 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: photographed license plates
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At 08.23 AM 8/9/96 -0700, i am not a number! wrote:
>O, and I think they're talking more about putting up cameras at some 
>troubling intersections to take pictures of cars running red-lights.

http://www.panix.com/~sshah/ss-nyred.htm gives a detailed listing of New York 
City intersections where this is already being done.

http://www.eng.uci.edu/vtm/freeway.html describes the techniques used to monitor 
traffic speeds, etc. with a camera. Includes several pictorial examples.

http://www.azfms.com/faq.html (Arizona DOT) gives some interesting (but suspect) 
info about freeway / camera interaction, as well as a bunch of traffic webcams 
and links to similar sites. The claim is made that license plates can only be 
read by the camera when a vehicle is stopped...

http://www.best.com/%7Elspencer/geoch/ is a page hawking remote sensor devices 
(Butt-Sniffers) for identifying "gross polluter' vehicles. These same sensors 
are being deployed on California freeways in the Bay Area, and owners of "gross 
polluting" vehicles receive citations in the mail. The page includes details on 
the advantages of large companies using Butt-Sniffers on their employees' 
vehicles. "By finding gross polluting employee vehicles via remote sensing, and 
selectively repairing or scrapping them, the employer can gain AVR compliance." 
A great example of the (not-so) subtle arm-twisting CARB is doing to implement 
Smog Check II...

http://www.primenet.com/~rstbear/biffl.html Biff the Bear's Potty Cam! A great 
place for car-grabbing (and most other) bureaucrats to go.
Jonathan Wienke

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