1996-10-11 - Re: “Drift net fishing,” GAK, FBI, and NSA

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From: azur@netcom.com (Steve Schear)
To: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
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UTC Datetime: 1996-10-11 14:40:53 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT)

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From: azur@netcom.com (Steve Schear)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
To: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Subject: Re: "Drift net fishing," GAK, FBI, and NSA
Message-ID: <v02130500ae8335a7be9d@[10.0.2.15]>
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>A clarification regarding something I wrote a few days ago:
>
>dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) writes:
>> Another possibility is to issue a charge card (payable in full at the end of
>> the month, getting revenue from the annual fee), rather than a credit card, s
>> it could claim not to be subject to certain Federal Reserve's regulations tha
>> have to do with credit card disputes. But then it probably can't be Visa/MC a
>> can't use their clearginhouses.
>
>A charge card (like the original AmEx, not like Optima) is not the same as
>a debit card. I have a debit card, tied to my checking account, and using
>mastercard's clearinghouse. To issue a debit card, the organization needs
>to keep checking accounts. Even if it doesn't pay interest, doesn't make
>commercial loans, etc, it still would be subject to weird Fed regulations
>and probably couldn't maintain anonimity.
>
>But the lack of a dispite resolution mechanism is really the killer.
>

How about companies that issue credit cards, but don't extend credit?  The
kind customers must maintain a postive balance at all times in order to
charge against their account.

-- Steve







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