1996-10-03 - Re: Fw: Re: ITAR satellite provision

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
To: Remo Pini <rp@rpini.com>
Message Hash: b8bf3e804c07aacb10e4969e97de4d149ff96141cb1cd12ec7028d5ad2971e75
Message ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.961003071638.17409D-100000@polaris>
Reply To: <9610030712.AA02002@srzts100.alcatel.ch>
UTC Datetime: 1996-10-03 13:47:16 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:47:16 +0800

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:47:16 +0800
To: Remo Pini <rp@rpini.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: ITAR satellite provision
In-Reply-To: <9610030712.AA02002@srzts100.alcatel.ch>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.961003071638.17409D-100000@polaris>
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On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Remo Pini wrote:

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> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Date: Thu Oct 03 08:09:13 1996
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> To: jimbell@pacifier.com
> Date: Thu Oct 03 08:08:42 1996
> > >*   A launch vehicle or payload shall not, by reason of the launching
> > >*   of such vehicle, be considered an export for purposes of this
> > >*   subchapter.
> > Okay, everybody, call Estes!  We've got some crypto to export...er...laun
> > ch!
> If I get the above wording correctly (unicorn, help me!), it is sufficient 
> to put the cryptostuff on a disc in a LAUNCHABLE device, it never says that 
> the payload has to be delivered by air. So, just put that thing in a bag 
> and get it through customs... (or does "by reason of ..." mean that the 
> exclusive means of export allowed is launching ?)

The launching alone will not cause it to be an export.  If it is launched
and then ends up outside the U.S., it could be an export.  Certainly if it
is launched with the purpose of exporting crypto, it will be an export.


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> remo pini
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> Remo Pini                        rp@rpini.com
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