1996-11-25 - Re: IPG Algorith Broken!

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
To: “Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM” <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
Message Hash: 50696ba7268bf367a87cf557d5c88d192c866144eb006bc2dfa6d6cf8c7778a7
Message ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.961125021451.5157G-100000@polaris>
Reply To: <c2aXXD25w165w@bwalk.dm.com>
UTC Datetime: 1996-11-25 07:17:05 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:17:05 -0800 (PST)

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:17:05 -0800 (PST)
To: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
Subject: Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
In-Reply-To: <c2aXXD25w165w@bwalk.dm.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.961125021451.5157G-100000@polaris>
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On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 19:25:35 EST
> From: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
> 
> Alan Olsen <alan@ctrl-alt-del.com> babbles:
> > At 04:00 AM 11/24/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote:
> > >On Sun, 24 Nov 1996 eli+@gs160.sp.cs.cmu.edu wrote:
> > >
> > >> Maybe this one's different from all of those.  How valuable a secret
> > >> would you like to wager on that?  If IPG wants credibility, they should
> > >> retain a respected cryptographer, or several, to attack their scheme.
> > >
> > >"They" attempt this nearly daily by trying to taunt c'punks into
> > >evaluating the product for free.
> >
> > Then someone should not do it for free.  They should do it as a "data
> > recovery tool", advertise widely, make a few bucks, and show what a piece
> > of crap the IPG snakeoil is in the first place.
> >
> > Cracktools are starting to become a profitable business as more and more
> > snakeoil products appear on the market.  (Most are marketed to law
> > enforcement, but that will probibly change...)
> >
> > There is a buck or two to be made here.
> 
> There's probably more money to be made by blackmailing the snake-oil
> peddler (pay me so I don't release the cracktool for your crap) than
> by selling the cracktools themselves.

Your both right.
The correct approach is to blackmail the peddler, and then sell the
cracker after the peddler has got enough of the product out there to make
your sales significant.

In this day and age of throw-away identity, you can make money coming and
going.

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