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1997-08-19 - Re: Cypherpunks as a Terrorist Organization

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From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
To: Tim May <cypherpunks@toad.com
Message Hash: 086bee1d37af9c4c01605682eeaec425c911e9c56e879df1dfc4c3588e9eb5f0
Message ID: <3.0.2.32.19970819110226.03729fe0@panix.com>
Reply To: <199708181919.VAA19973@xs2.xs4all.nl>
UTC Datetime: 1997-08-19 16:04:31 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 00:04:31 +0800

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From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 00:04:31 +0800
To: Tim May <cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Cypherpunks as a Terrorist Organization
In-Reply-To: <199708181919.VAA19973@xs2.xs4all.nl>
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>And there is Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Act, which explicitly makes certain
>kinds of financial and other activities illegal, even by Americans, which
>involve support of "terrorist" organizations. It is not inconceivable that,
>following outlawing of strong crypto in various countries, that the
>Cypherpunks group gets classified as an organization or group which
>supports terrorist goals, which is almost certainly true.)

State is lagging in issuing the terrorist organization list required by this 
law.  It is believed that they are chicken because most of the groups would 
be Moslem groups and this would be considered a politically incorrect 
denigration of a "protected group."  Then they'd have to put the IRA on the 
list as well and that would cause controversy.  If they never issue the 
list...

In any case, I don't think that we have to worry because we don't fund 
anyone.  We just send non-cash bits.  The law requires that a foreign 
terrorist group on the "Attorney General's List" (actually State Department) 
receive money or physical support.  I suppose remailers could be targetted 
but that would make for an interesting case since anonymnity remains 
protected.

DCF

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