1997-09-14 - Re: Real issue of crypto controls: security or taxation loss?

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From: jf_avon@citenet.net
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From: jf_avon@citenet.net
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:29:48 +0800
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: Re: Real issue of crypto controls: security or taxation loss?
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On 13 Sep 97 at 23:44, iang@systemics.com wrote:


> The battle should remain on the field of personal rights, because the
> battle over economics cannot be won, right at this current juncture in
> time.  I.e., Now.

Probably a sensible opinion.  But what would be the effect of pulling 
in the other direction?  Espcially if the population would be more 
personnally concerned with it?  The way it is now, National Security 
is a scarecrow but the real thing is the govt corn to be protected...

> As TCM will no doubt never tire of saying, the deployment of appropriate
> infrastructure is something that takes time.  Until the deployment of
> all that juicy stuff is in place, nobody can provide a single transaction
> of your three-orders-of-magnitude-reality.

Only, to deploy any e-$ scheme would need an environment where govt 
would _tolerate_ crypto.  But the way it is going, everything is set 
in place to trample on anybody's face that will use crypto with the 
"not-the-flavour-of-the-month-at-White-House" sauce such as e-$ 
programmers, etc.  

If the debate could be shifted-off, the legitimacy of the govt 
claimed goals could get strongly challenged.  This is possible only 
if there is a cause that concerns citizens directly.  Now, try 
telling me that taxation is the most popular of govt's measures...  
The fact that a majority voted for Politician A does not mean 
that a majority loves him...

> Of course this raises the interesting question of why the establishment
> does not shift the battle themselves ...

Precisely.  IMO, there is more hidden under there than meets the 
eye.  What if we try prying at this tiny, well concealed crack in the 
big wall?


Ciao

jfa
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