1997-10-28 - Re: dumb and dumber

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
To: Ariel Glenn <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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Reply To: <CMM.0.90.4.878054795.ariel@stealth.cc.columbia.edu>
UTC Datetime: 1997-10-28 17:16:02 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:16:02 +0800

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:16:02 +0800
To: Ariel Glenn <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: dumb and dumber
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At 9:06 AM -0700 10/28/97, Ariel Glenn wrote:
>every day I think, 'things can't possibly get any stupider'.  and
>invariably, I am proven wrong.
>
>from CNET: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,15721,00.html
>
>Next year's Pentium II computers will be subject to
>export controls if a bill pending in Congress passes.
>It's expected to come up in the House today.
>
>Under an amendment to the 1998 Defense
>Authorization bill, computer makers shipping machines
>that can perform 2,000 million theoretical operations
>per second (MTOPS) or more to developing nations
>will have to apply to the Commerce Department for an
>export license.

It could be an interesting legal battle. Intel will certainly bring a lot
of firepower to bear on this.

Interestingly, one of the reasons the Pentium, and Pentium II, is being
fabbed in Israel (they ignored my "soft target" evaluation) and Ireland
(ditto), is to get production inside the borders of the area, including the
European Community.

So, what happens when Pentium IIs are drop-shipped straight to Penang,
Malaysia for packaging and test and are then drop-shipped directly to
"developing nations"? Where did the export occur?

With crypto code, it was the shipment of intellectual property to a
non-U.S. nation. E.g., if RSADSI sends programmers to Ireland to write a
crypto program so as to bypass U.S. laws, that's where the violation
supposedly occurred. (We haven't seen major prosecutions based on this
interpretation, yet.)

But I suppose it won't be too much of a hassle. Intel and other computer
companies dealt with the COCOM laws adequately, and the new proposal,
though pissing into the wind, won't even be as onerous as COCOM was.

--Tim May

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