1997-10-05 - Re: New PGP “Everything the FBI ever dreamed of”

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From: Ryan Anderson <randerso@ece.eng.wayne.edu>
To: Tim May <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Message Hash: 262500cc9b5321934ebd7e6969d04eff50a9ddcff3d62ff4aa15d42b00975018
Message ID: <3.0.2.32.19971005163708.006d25e0@ece.eng.wayne.edu>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-10-05 20:49:43 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 04:49:43 +0800

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From: Ryan Anderson <randerso@ece.eng.wayne.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 04:49:43 +0800
To: Tim May <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: New PGP "Everything the FBI ever dreamed of"
In-Reply-To: <199710051653.MAA10344@users.invweb.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971005163708.006d25e0@ece.eng.wayne.edu>
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At 12:06 PM 10/5/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:

>>Claiming that they are doing the work of Big Brother is a cheap-shot and
>>uncalled for.
>
>(Ironic coming from a frequent issuer of cheap shots.)
>
>
>It is the work of Big Brother, as Garfinkel, Zimmermann, and I agree, when
>it becomes a default that additional recipients are automatically copied on
>encrypted mail. It may be useful to companies, but it's still dangerous.

Look a bit closer at the announcments:  I believe they said that they would 
compile a new version for each key that they used.  So it's not even likely 
that this could become a widespread feature.

For this to be useful for GAK, you'd have to change all copies in existence 
to encrypt for this key.  (And of course, then you'd have a very simple key-
id to search for in the executable and modify, say to encrypt back to 
yourself, and you'd have circumvented this little problem)

If you want PGP to get into widespread use in business, you have to provide 
features that they will require.  Frankly, this is good for encryption, to 
provide features that business needs.  With this, hopefully the business 
lobby will fall in line with the no-regulation-on-crypto lobby, and get all 
of us the results we want.

Phil is never going to release a copy of PGP that has built-in GAK.  We know 
that.  This is MAK (Management Access...) in a secure manner, which is better 
than the other methods of internal escrow.
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