From: nobody@neva.org (Neva Remailer)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:29:48 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: FCPUNX:Tim plans to kill a federal judge
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James Donald wrote:
>At 06:10 PM 11/14/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>> By the way, the same can be said about the work of Heidegger, a thinker who
>> has had some influence on me. Whenever I cite anything Heidegger ever said,
>> I can count on some numbskull to parrot the "Heidegger was a Nazi" shtick.
>
>Probably because Heidegger *was* a Nazi, who pranced around in full drag 
>Nazi uniform and sent certain of his colleagues to the concentration camps.
>
>To very crudely oversimplify the relationship between Heideggers 
>philosophy and Nazism, it goes like this.
>
>No objective, only the intersubjective, therefore the community
>defines reality, therefore truth is merely relative to the community.
>
>Yeah, I know it is more complex than that, but it still boils down
>to debates being resolved by hanging people from the ceiling with 
>piano wire rather than by appeal to the external world.

You are doing something slightly different from people who respond to
a point with "Heideggar?  That Nazi!"

The people who do this are short circuiting the discussion instead of
showing how the point made is in error.  In a sense, they are not
discussing an idea, but the group affiliations of each speaker.

I find that the ideas are more interesting.

(Although, if one were interested in Heideggar, his biography would
probably be interesting, too.)

Monty Cantsin
Editor in Chief
Smile Magazine
http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html
http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm

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