1998-02-10 - RE: Cyber ‘Nannys”

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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1998-02-10 18:20:12 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 02:20:12 +0800

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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 02:20:12 +0800
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: RE: Cyber 'Nannys"
In-Reply-To: <34DF87FE.611AA4EF@InfoWar.Com>
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Some of my articles are at:


As for the market, it's already deciding. NetNanny does NOT encrypt its
list of blocked sites and is using that as a competitive advantage.


At 23:23 -0800 2/9/98, Tim May wrote:
>At 2:49 PM -0800 2/9/98, WebWarrior3@InfoWar.Com wrote:
>>While I do not disagree that these companies should be able to market
>>their products, I wholeheartedly disagree with the fact that often their
>>customers (the adults who bought the software or subscribed to he
>>'service') are not allowed to have a list of what is actually blocked,
>So you wholeheartedly disagree that they are not giving you a list of what
>is blocked...so go use another service.
>I don't mean to be flippant. At issue here is a very real issue of free
>choice and contracts. Customers cannot "demand" a list of criteria for
>blocked sites any more than customers can demand a list of the selection
>criteria a bookstore uses, or a magazine editor uses, and so on.
>I make fun of Cyber Sitter and other Net.Nannies, but there's no role for
>"disagreeing with the fact" (whatever that infelicitous expression may
>mean) that they usually don't publicize their criteria.
>If you can figure out their criteria, great. Brock Meeks and Declan M.
>figured out some criteria a while back in an interesting article. But make
>sure that your "disagreeing with the fact" is not translated into calling
>for disclosure laws. That way lies statism.
>--Tim May
>Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside"
>Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
>ComSec 3DES:   408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
>W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
>Higher Power: 2^3,021,377   | black markets, collapse of governments.