From: "Graham-John Bullers" <real@EDMC.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:18:40 +0800
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Subject: Re: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
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Date sent:      	Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:10:37 -0400
To:             	cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
From:           	John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
Subject:        	A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
Send reply to:  	John Young <jya@pipeline.co
> 

As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I would just like to 
say I think the posts were a joke.
With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to the list and this was Toto's 
way of acknowledging this
To the government readers of this list,the cigar was Cuban,will you 
put Bill in the cell with Toto.

>    http://jya.com/jg062397.htm
>    http://jya.com/jg090497.htm
>    http://jya.com/jg120997.htm
>    http://jya.com/jg121497.htm
>    http://jya.com/jg060898.htm (not June 10, as in the complaint; thanks to
> jeff-anon)
>    http://jya.com/jg072598.htm
>    http://jya.com/jg072798.htm
> 
> It was a pleasure to reread Toto(s)'s stuff while searching the 
> cpunk amazing archives -- what a waterfall from everyone of free 
> association, tants, jibes, potshots and richochets and self-mockery. 
> I now believe the report from TX that Carl's got an IQ off the charts
> like all cpunks off the wall.
> 
> It's worth keeping in mind that multiple users of pseudonyms is
> not unusual, at least among artists long before the Internet, and 
> not only performance group e-mailers like the Totos, CJ Parkers, 
> XxxMongers, Gus-Peters and endless Anonymees jostling for
> unrecognition.
> 
> Two venerable and heavily-used nyms in Europe are Luther Bissett 
> and Monty Cantsin. A dazzling Monty Cantsin posted here for a 
> while. A Luther Bissett message ridiculing the recent kiddie porn
> sweep was posted to Cyberia a few days ago. But these pseudonyms 
> and others are frequently used to taunt uptight authoritarians by 
> substantial numbers of people, sometimes acting in concert but 
> most often acting alone.
> 
> An exemplary case of acting up like the Totos and other performance
> pseudo-Feynmann's here, is that of Dario Fo, the Italian artist who 
> recently won the Nobel Prize. His off the chart genius, too, was in 
> mixing the real and imaginary to challenge, and to frighten, authority 
> into revealing their treacherous deception of the real and imaginary 
> to maintain state and religious control century after century, culture
> after culture. He, too, was regularly condemned by those obsesses
> with holding onto power, and sometimes arrested, for his imitations
> of them at their most buffoonish and serious.
> 
> Fo is from an earlier generation, though, and what more agressively
> offensive form is suitable for those younger we may be witnessing in 
> the Jim Bells, Unknown Arrestees, and those here not yet projected 
> onto the world stage but working the crowd most effectively.
> 
> Black Unicorn, step up to the mike. Show magic.
> 
> In any, case, I'm delighted to see Cypherpunks get credit in the Johnson
> pseudo-complaint for hosting transgressive art appropriate for the age of 
> widespreading disinformation. A tumultous trial to amplify this forum's 
> mayhemic virtues and vices would be magnificently chaotic and hopefully 
> anarchic to the max. 
> 
> Pray for CJ to get an equally mad attorney to demand his day, and our day, 
> in court. This under-recognized witness is eager for a highly offensive 
> part to play, a gibbering idiot like Toto(s), you bet, I admire their style of
> spleen and threat to the fools of seriousness.
> 
> 
> 


                  Graham-John Bullers
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    I dream of things that never were and say,why not?