1995-10-26 - Re: How can e-cash, even on-line cleared, protect payee identity?

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From: Jiri Baum <jirib@sweeney.cs.monash.edu.au>
To: hfinney@shell.portal.com (Hal)
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Message ID: <199510260424.OAA12383@sweeney.cs.monash.edu.au>
Reply To: <199510241425.HAA06922@jobe.shell.portal.com>
UTC Datetime: 1995-10-26 04:25:28 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 21:25:28 PDT

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From: Jiri Baum <jirib@sweeney.cs.monash.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 21:25:28 PDT
To: hfinney@shell.portal.com (Hal)
Subject: Re: How can e-cash, even on-line cleared, protect payee identity?
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Message-ID: <199510260424.OAA12383@sweeney.cs.monash.edu.au>
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Hello Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
  and cypherpunks@toad.com

H wrote:
> Jiri Baum <jirib@sweeney.cs.monash.edu.au> writes:
> >An interesting question is whether Bob and Nick can now collude to
> >expose Alice. Therefore Alice would at least want to verify that the
> I don't think they can.  All Bob sees is his own blinded coin, and the

What I meant is, are there any proto-coins that will show through
a blinding? (Mathematically special values like fixed points.)

> However, the timing is a problem.  Bob knows _when_ Alice communicated

So it is.

What you'd really want is for Alice to pay for the new coins in ecash.

I'm wondering whether a "coin-changer" would be easier or harder to
set up than a "bank" (from regulatory point of view).

After all, for e-cash you don't really need accounts; you just need:
  - verify coins (coin-changer) ie ecash->ecash
  - buy coins (join the system) ie  cash->ecash
  - sell coins (redeem)         ie ecash->cash

Any cyberspace banks can be completely separate from the ecash issuer.

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