1996-03-31 - Blue Water spooks

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From: Jonathon Blake <grafolog@netcom.com>
To: Alan Horowitz <alanh@mailhost.infi.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-03-31 13:04:53 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:04:53 +0800

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From: Jonathon Blake <grafolog@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:04:53 +0800
To: Alan Horowitz <alanh@mailhost.infi.net>
Subject: Blue Water spooks
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On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, Alan Horowitz wrote:

> Is there any indication that the GRU or Chinese or Iranian intelligence 
> (I think these are our only foes nowadays who have blue-water {to mix a

	What about the Allies, and alleged allies of the US.
	Canada, Britian, Israel?   << Why assume that only
	non-allies will want to conduct any sort of sigint
	against human speakers of Navajo.
> metaphor} spook services) could do better than the Japanese did in 
> sigint'ing against human speakers of Navajoe?

	Have the Chinese turned their thought towards cryptography,
	or cryptanalysis yet?   If so, I suspect the answer is 
	yes,  If not, then the answer is a definate No.

	The Chinese Intelligence Service traditionally has 
	not looked outward, preferring to ply its trade domestically.
	That said, the earliest extant text on espionage is Chinese. 

> Is the Navjo language still extent among draft-age men?  Life in the 
> Southwest has changed considerably since 1943.

	I suspect more anglos can speak Navajo now, than during WW2 -- both
	numerically, and as a percentage of the population. 
	<< Some americans do think a second languages is useful, unlike
	some people on this list.   Admittedly, the US still has
	a far way to catchup to the European idea of what a 
	literate person is.  >>