1997-06-14 - Re: Ray Just doesn’t get it.

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From: “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@amaranth.com>
To: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-06-14 15:04:14 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 23:04:14 +0800

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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 23:04:14 +0800
To: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
Subject: Re: Ray Just doesn't get it.
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In <19970614074032.37364@bywater.songbird.com>, on 06/14/97 
   at 07:40 AM, Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com> said:

>On Sat, Jun 14, 1997 at 08:58:36AM -0500, William H. Geiger III wrote:
>>You have two choices you can take the Libertarian view of a minimal
>>governement where all it's actions are reveiwable by it's citizens or you
>>can take the Statest view of big governemtn where all is's actions are
>>hidden and all "solutions" are more regulation and biger government.

>The consistent libertarian/anarchist view of this would be that the
>privacy or non-privacy of records is completely determined by contract
>between the person supplying the information and the agency collecting
>it.  For example, a medical license would be granted by agencies that 
>granted such licenses.  If you wanted a license from a particular agency 
>you would deal with them.  The value of the license is determined by  the
>reputation of the agency, not whether or not they give out  doctors home

This is fine if the licensing is being done in the private sector. If it
is being done by the government then it must be public. You can not have a
democracy if everything the governmnet does is hidden from the citizens it
is to server.

>>The whole privacy issue is a strawman proped up by the government to
>>frighten the sheeple so they can pass their agenda. What's their agenda?
>>To have a series of privacy laws they can hide behind to keep their
>>actions hidden from public view.

>An amusing example of a conspiracy theory.  You are pretty good at 
>these, you know.  :-)

No conspiracy Kent just SOP for the government. I believe the current
phrase is "spin-doctoring". Anyone who has spent any time watching how
governemnt works knows that quite often they will create a "problem" for
the sole purpose of providing a "solution".

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