1997-06-12 - Re: Thoughtcrime (Re: My War)

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From: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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UTC Datetime: 1997-06-12 05:19:27 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:19:27 +0800

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From: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:19:27 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Thoughtcrime   (Re: My War)
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On Wed, Jun 11, 1997 at 07:18:52PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
> Ideas are not protected speech, since they only exist in the mind, only
> expressions are protected.

Actually, expression is heavily encumbered with state mechanism, since
it is expression that is "protected" by copyright.  Ideas are also
encumbered by the state, through patent law.  The whole notion of
expression and ideas as property is purely sustained by the state.  

> As I stated earlier, all expressions (however
> objectionable they may be to some or many members of society) deserve
> protection, unless they immediately threaten (or server to incite others to
> threaten) the physical well being of specific individuals or groups.  Porn
> and instructions for making conventional or weapons of mass distruction
> should not be regulated.

It seems to me that your penultimate sentence contradicts your last 

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