1997-06-04 - Re: McVeigh

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From: Jeremiah A Blatz <jer+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com
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UTC Datetime: 1997-06-04 15:42:41 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:42:41 +0800

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From: Jeremiah A Blatz <jer+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:42:41 +0800
To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com
Subject: Re: McVeigh
In-Reply-To: <3393682D.167E@ai.mit.edu>
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Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com> writes:
> At 4:50 PM -0700 6/3/97, Kent Crispin wrote:
> >Contrast ["milita violence"] with the brilliance of the anarchist
> >Eward Abbey in "The Monkey Wrench Gang", where the anti-government
> >acts were calculated to call forth popular support.
> If you at least avoid killing people, then you have fewer bitter enemies
> and a better chance of holding on to your winnings.  The examples of
> Gandhi, King, and Mandala come to mind.  Contrast their success with the
> results of the violence approach as exemplified by the generations old wars
> in Ireland and Israel.

You left out Sea Shepard, who sank the entire Icelandic whaling fleet
(with zero casualties) on night. Earth First!, Greenpeace, and other
somewhat-less-direct action groups have used "terrorist" means and
achieved enourmous popular support.


"standing on top of the world/ never knew how you never could/ never knew
 why you never could live/ innocent life that everyone did" -Wormhole