1997-07-29 - Crypto Hooks

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
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UTC Datetime: 1997-07-29 18:46:45 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 02:46:45 +0800

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 02:46:45 +0800
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: Crypto Hooks
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At 1:23 AM -0700 7/29/97, Craig Strickland wrote:

>This triggered a thought that may have already been discussed, but I thought
>I'd throw it out anyway.  Since the export of cryptography = munitions, what
>happens if I write an application that's the "shell", and contract with a
>national and resident of a foreign country to write the crypto module.  I do
>not export the crypto technology other than sending them a printed book
>(which Phil Karn's filing determined was exportable as a non-munition).
>I then retail the software as a 2-component system (distantly like PGP 2.6.3i
>could have been) on the web.  FTP the "shell" from my domestic site, and FTP
>the "crypto" from the foreign site.  Both install to make the seamless
>finished product.
>Anyone seen anything in ITAR addressing such a hiring arrangement?

This is called "providing crypto hooks," at least in the many threads on
this list and on Usenet where the details of this have been discussed.

It is generally interpreted--but there has not yet been a good court case
to test it, that I know of--that providing a "hook" or place to drop in
crypto is a violation of the ITARs/replacements for the ITARs.

Ditto for exporting expertise designed to circumvent the ITARs. Thus,
RSADSI cannot tell Rivest and the others to go take a 6-month in Monte
Carlo or Switzerland and develop the next generation there.

Again, this interpretation has not gotten a clear test in the courts.

--Tim May

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