1993-02-26 - Moral dilemma.

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From: Johan Helsingius <julf@penet.FI>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Message Hash: aec31d2fe3897e05624bebbd2d266fa2eb6235e82b82fd7f9b03c20982816ffa
Message ID: <9302260807.aa01498@penet.penet.FI>
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UTC Datetime: 1993-02-26 08:43:04 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 00:43:04 PST

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From: Johan Helsingius <julf@penet.FI>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 00:43:04 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Moral dilemma.
Message-ID: <9302260807.aa01498@penet.penet.FI>
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This is a typical example of the dilemmas faced by an anon posting
operator. Here is my reply to the complaint from an user in
rec.music.gdead. Don't feel good about it, but...

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To:      <DELETED>
Subject: Re: abuse of internet access

> To whom it may concern:
> I direct your attention to the following post made on the rec.music.gdead 
> newsgroup:
> Article 30001 (26 more) in rec.music.gdead:
> From: an13488@anon.penet.fi
> Subject: Tickets available
> Organization: Anonymous contact service
> X-Anonymously-To: rec.music.gdead
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:48:01 GMT
> Lines: 28
> We have the following tickets available:
> Rosemont:
> 3/9  12 tickets
> 3/10 6 tickets, 4 taper tickets
> 3/11 10 tickets, 8 taper tickets
> Richfield:
> 3/14 12 tickets
> Landover:
> 3/16 12 tickets
> 3/17 12 tickets, 6 taper tickets
> 3/17 12 tickets, 6 taper tickets
> 3/18 6 tickets, 2 taper tickets
> Tickets will be sold for best offer.  Include your phone number with your
> bid.  Winning bidders will be contacted by phone to arrange payment
> and delivery of tickets.  We accept Visa and  Mastercard.  Bids are
> taken up to 5 days before the show, although we may contact you earlier
> if we feel your bid is suficient to warrant immediate sale.
> - -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
> Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
> and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
> Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi.
> *IMPORTANT server security update*, mail to update@anon.penet.fi for details.
> This is ticket scalping, pure and simple (selling a ticket for higher than its 
> value.  This is extremely illegal in the United States.  This is also a posting
> promoting a private enterprise for profit on the internet, extremely unethical.
> 	Furthermore, the people who are doing this are selling what are known a
> s
> "taper tickets".  These tickets are only available through the Grateful Dead Ti
> cket Service via mail order.  The reason GDTS does this is to help deter scalpe
> rs.  I hereby request 2 courses of action from you:
> 1)You immediately suspend Internet access priveleges of the individual(s)
> responsible for this posting.
> 2)You provide the individual's (or individuals') name(s) to the Grateful
> Dead Ticket Service so they may take legal action against these criminals.
> I hope my letter is merely one of many that have reached you concerning this su
> bject.  I assure you, there are many people who will not tolerate this and
> will do everything in their power to see that these people are caught and stopp
> ed.  Furthermore, if you are going to offer people anonymous Internet access, 
> be prepared to face the consequences when your clients break U.S. law.  As far
> as I am concerned, you are an accessory and should do everything in your power
> to rectify this situation.
> I hope you take the time to respond and tell me what measures you have taken.

I have sent the person a message informing him/her that the account will
be blocked if the inappropriate postings continue. In an international
world, where laws, customs and morals vary from one place and culture to
another, and where a lot of people are trying to force their views onto
others, the only way a service like anon.penet.fi can operate is by very
simple and firm rules that are followed without exception. One rule is
that I *never* reveal the true identity of an anon user, and another is
that I *never* block access to the server without warning and without
giving the person a chance to defend him/herself.

I do understand your views, and I am very sympatetic to them, but I hope
you also realize that inpartial service requires "blind" abiding to
these rules.


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