From: Marc.Ringuette@GS80.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 23:26:59 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: ANON: real-person newsgroups
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Hal Finney (I think) writes,
> the net is inherently an anonymous environment.
> ...The sooner people realize that there is
> no line that divides the clean from the unclean, the sooner anonymity will
> be widely accepted on the net.

But there _is_ a line, and people will likely want to draw it.  It's
true that currently there aren't any security guarantees to prevent a
person from pretending to be someone else, but there will be.  PEM
certificates will distinguish between real people and personas.  A
public-key-authenticated "real person newsgroup" can be implemented.

This raises the possibility that most newsgroups will transition to
real-person-only status.  This will cramp the style of those of us who
wish to participate in the net using a persona.

I think a major task ahead of us is to provide an alternative to
"real people = good, personas = bad", and to put forward alternatives
to "real person newsgroups" which are tolerable to most and more 
palatable to us.  

So what's the distinction we might wish to put forward instead of
"real person"?  "Paying customer", perhaps, or "respected reputation"?
Yeah, that sounds good.  Maybe it's time to set up some reputation
based newsgroups, with a means of keeping track of who has been
posting good stuff, and of filtering for credibility.

-- Marc Ringuette (mnr@cs.cmu.edu)