1993-03-11 - Re: Hidden encrypted messages

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From: J. Michael Diehl <mdiehl@triton.unm.edu>
To: derek@cs.wisc.edu (Derek Zahn)
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UTC Datetime: 1993-03-11 21:24:44 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 13:24:44 PST

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From: J. Michael Diehl <mdiehl@triton.unm.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 13:24:44 PST
To: derek@cs.wisc.edu (Derek Zahn)
Subject: Re:  Hidden encrypted messages
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> Alex's (good) idea about using creative spacing to hide an encrypted message
> is similar to that what I'd originally proposed (and of course it has to
> be hiding an *encrypted* message!).  I've gotten a number of responses
> of the form "Why not just claim that an encrypted message is data?",
> but my original point was Plausible Deniability.  That is, I was
> postulating an environment in which Big Brother has outlawed cryptography.
> Now, confronted with a confiscated message, the sender has to defend
> himself from the Inquisition.  Can't just claim it's a sound file;
> the Inquisitor will want it played.  The question I'm trying to answer

So I say, "Damn! CRC Error!  Must be a bad disk.  Well, no point in keeping
THIS sitting around."

> is how to produce on demand a causal explanation of data (which actually
> contains an encrypted message) that satisfies an investigator and
> doesn't reveal the encrypted message.  Some simple scheme like, "Uh,

I understand what you want.  Wish I understood how to do it. ;^)

> it's the result of my new random number generation algorithm" isn't
> likely to be *satisfying* and is certain to produce the response,
> "OK, let's see the algorithm."
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