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From: Sandy <72114.1712@CompuServe.COM>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 22:11:03 PDT
To: <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: SEARCH ME
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SANDY SANDFORT Reply to: ssandfort@attmail.com
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Cypherpunks,
Duncan Frissell's experience with the "drain police" reminded me
of a similar experience I had some years ago. I found out that
the "building police" in Kansas City would be inspecting homes in
my neighborhood looking for "code violations." I had put in some
electrical plugs without benefit of an electrician. Also, I was
still in law school, so naturally I felt like raising some
(legal) hell with the Powers That Be.
When the inspector showed up, I said "no thank you" when he asked
if he could inspect my house. If I had poll-axed him, he
couldn't have looked more surprised. Apparently, nobody had
*ever* said "no."
After he recovered, he asked me why not. I mentioned the Fourth
Amendment and the -See- and -Camara- decisions in the Supreme
Court. He never came back.
I won't go into the embarrassing story of the one time I did
cooperate with the police. Suffice it to say, I regretted it.
Both events, however, have made it clear to me that it is almost
always stupid to cooperate with the cops.
To be truthful, I strongly considered leaving out the word
*almost* in the previous sentence. I'm afraid some of you will
outsmart yourself by thinking you can control a law enforcement
situation with "clever" cooperation. Dream on. If you aren't a
lawyer, it is very likely you will fuck yourself.
But shouldn't you cooperate for the little things, especially
when you know you are clean? No, no, no, for two reasons.
First, I are you sure you are clean in the officials eyes? The
one time I cooperated, the fact that I had 3-4 $100 bills on my
dresser made it into the cops report (though he did add, "no
other signs of drug dealing"). Are you *sure* you're clean?
Second, it's great practice. You have a right to require a valid
warrant. These guys (nominally) work for you. Enjoy yourself;
make them jump through some hoops for you. Rights are like
muscles, if you don't exercise them, they atrophy.
Use it, or loose it!
S a n d y
>>>>>> Please send e-mail to: ssandfort@attmail.com <<<<<<
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