From: ""L. Detweiler"" <ld231782@longs.lance.colostate.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 93 23:21:39 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: alt.whistleblowing-cypherpunk FAQ
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J. Michael Diehl <mdiehl@triton.unm.edu>
>I just started reading the alt.whistleblowing newsgroup.  It would seem that it
>has already digressed into a flamefest.  Could the person who created it please
>post a set of guidelines for the group!  Also, people are using their REAL 
>names!  Appearantly, they don't know anything about the anon remailers....Could
>someone post a notice about that, too?  Same thing goes WRT pgp.  We helped 
>create this group, we ought to help keep it worth reading. ;^)
 
Mr. Diehl:

If you had taken the time to read any significant portion of
alt.whistleblowing traffic, I would imagine you would have stumbled on
messages where I presented an outline/preliminary FAQ and an anonymous
posting described precisely how to use Julf's remailer to send traffic
(which were posted under a week ago).  I take great offense at your
hasty, flippant denigration of it so far as a `flamefest'. While of
course I'm not really associated with alt.whistleblowers at all in the
grand cyberspatial scheme of things, I feel a smidgeon of personal
responsibility for the group.  Are you paying attention? Have you seen
my promises there and on the cypherpunk list to create the FAQ?

So far, IMHO, the traffic has mostly been very high-caliber and even
spectacular. A lady named Karen Lofstrom reported how her boss at a
Hawaii university misused ~$100,000 in funds and work of public
employees on his private company -- from NSA grant money -- starting a
long thread of sympathetic responses (she alluded to this earlier on
sci.crypt I believe but expanded it beautifully in alt.whistleblower).
We have other interesting revelations so far too.  There are messages
pointing out a private `whistleblowing support organization' and how to
contact them.

Your message, upon rereading it, makes me extremely exasperated. It
reconfirms my suspicion that a large part of traffic on this list and
tactics in the Cypherpunk arsenal are to just give lip service to
interesting ideas but leave the messy and laborious detail work to
others. Despite plenty of great fireworks on this list, I have seen no
tangible contributions from others on the whistleblowing project other
than Miron Cuperman's gracious effort to create the group (despite
grandiose reassurances to the contrary), and Julf's immediate support
of it, two individuals who are already highly active and motivated
outside of their cypherpunk involvement.  Furthermore, I've encountered
many extremely frustrating obstructions here.  I've seen great
accomplishments by individuals who call themselves `cypherpunks' but
none by well-orchestrated collections of them.

This is not to discourage positive effort in the future by anyone on
this list on the whistleblower project or anything else. It is to
suggest that the Cypherpunks are so intensely individualistic as to
preclude group projects and large-scale cooperation, and that this is a
serious obstacle to enacting meaningful, critical change on the agenda.
 (Go ahead, flame me and ask what I've done for everyone lately --- I
won't respond. That is not the spirit of my words.)

The statement that makes my blood boil violently is the following:

>We helped 
>create this group, we ought to help keep it worth reading. ;^)

How is it that `we' created this group? All I've seen here is
voluminous verbiage (yes, mine included).  I appreciate the call to
arms and cooperation, but I've tried it here before with impoverished,
negligible, and excruciatingly painful results. How long ago did you
join the list? I've already posted ways for cypherpunks to help out on
the whistleblowing newsgroup. The simplest way is to just go there and
post something useful or assimilate existing traffic into something useful.

Mr. Diehl, the following is not a personal request. On behalf of the
hundreds of people who read the cypherpunks list, I humbly ask you (and
remind all other cypherpunks) to put the tiniest greater effort into
your postings to the mailing list that, like all others, take the time
of everyone to sort in their mailbox, and make every effort to direct
messages through personal email where appropriate. I've asked you
before politely in private email to no response, or apparently, effect.
 It is only in the rarest of occasions I will ever put forth such a
request, and an even more unusual case to go public with it. I
appreciated your volunteering to do the email survey but turning around
with the final summary and admitting yourself that you're `too lazy to
tabulate results' I find highly annoying (what is the point?), and I
think does a disservice to the people who took the time to respond
(including myself).

Following is some traffic from the group. Some favorite quotes:

From Greg Welch, who's been extremely helpful in contributing to the
FAQ referring to that private whistleblower agency:

>BTW, you just made me realize that I need to contact them to see if they
>can read (or are already reading) this news group somehow.  Boy, I wish this
>group was around when I was in a similar situation.

Also, from Karen Lofstrom, the NSA grant whistleblower:

>If we can get a number of other whistleblowers posting here, or people
>from organizations that support whistleblowers, perhaps we can create some
>group wisdom about how to blow the whistle _effectively_.  I certainly
>could have used some informed advice when I started.

===cut=here===

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From: lofstrom@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Karen Lofstrom)
Subject: NSA Grant Misused
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Summary: Grantee runs private business with government paid labor 
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I noted with interest the creation of this newsgroup and looked forward to
reading the contributions of other whistleblowers.  However, no
whistleblowers have come forward.  I suppose I'll have to post, then.

I'm a fired whistleblower.  After working five months of a part-time job
funded by a NSA grant, at Chaminade University (note that this case does
not involve the University of Hawaii, under whose auspices I post), I had
begun to realize that my boss was misusing the grant.  He was using
government paid clerical labor, including mine, to run several businesses. 
He was ordering equipment for the grant from his own company, and charging
the government twice what he charged any other customers (and a 1000%
markup over what he actually paid for the equipment).  I started collecting
documentation of the problems, sneaking xeroxes when no one was looking.  

I didn't know anything about how to blow a whistle, so I consulted a
friend of mine who worked in the state prosecutor's office.  He suggested
I contact a LARGE, reputable law firm, which I did.  The lawyer I
consulted was friendly and helpful, even refusing to charge for his
services.  I had been planning to go talk to the university.  The lawyer
said that they had failed in their oversight, would probably be more
inclined to cover things up than fix them.  He suggested I phone the
granting agency and talk to someone there (though not the person directly
responsible for the grant, who was a friend of the grantee, and had taken
an expensive present from him). 

Well, the lawyer didn't know that you can't phone the NSA. 

I had a phone number from the copy of the grant I had surreptitiously
xeroxed, but the operator said they would accept calls from secure lines
only.  Write a letter, she said.  

I wrote a letter and chewed my nails for a week. They didn't respond at
all.  So I took the advice of another friend and went to the FBI and the
DCIS (Defense Criminal Investigation Services).  They started an
investigation.  I was fired.  

I didn't go to the press because I was trying to be nice, and reasonable,
and hoping that the government would take some action.  I didn't
necessarily want my ex-boss prosecuted, I just wanted the waste stopped.  

Well, the DCIS decided not to prosecute.  They said that my charges
weren't unfounded, but that the case was so complex that they weren't sure
they could win it in a jury trial.  Well, the investigator told me that. 
The DCIS never put anything on paper.  So I wrote the NSA, asking if they
were taking any steps to prevent further waste and fraud.  They advised me
to contact the DCIS.  I wrote the DCIS, they didn't answer.  I went to my
Congressman, who wrote to the NSA.  The NSA told him to tell me to write
to the DCIS.  I wrote the DCIS and they didn't answer.  I wrote the
Congressman again and got no reply.  

So I went to the papers.   The local alternative weekly wasn't interested;
they said they didn't have enough writers to cover all the stories.  I
went to the mainstream newspaper, which was extremely interested at
first.  Then the reporter discovered that I had been fired over a year
ago.  This made the whole thing non-news.  Apparently if I had contacted
them while the investigation was still going on, it would have been news. 

Several people have advised me to sue.  There is a law forbidding
the firing of whistleblowers.  However, the damages to be
to be recovered might be slight, given that it was a low-paying clerical
job, and I would have to pay for the suit out of my own pocket.  

The NSA didn't renew the grant. However, they didn't do anything to crack
down on my ex-boss.  He stole approximately $100,000 from the taxpayers,
and he's going to get away with it.  

For the halls of infamy: the grant was NSA Grant PR #00-91-0016
MDA904-91-H-5002.   The grantee was Dr. John Wollstein. 

I keep asking myself, what could I have done differently?  I do wish that
I had been on the net then, that this topic had existed, and that I could
have gotten some advice from other whistleblowers.  I wish that I'd
contacted the press as soon as I was fired, rather than trying to be "nice".

I'd like some discussion of this, but I would hope that it could be
productive.  It wouldn't make me feel any better to have peoplle flaming
for being stupid about this or that, given that _I'm_ the one who paid the
price for trying to do the right thing. 



 ----- Karen Lofstrom           lofstrom@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu
                                K.Lofstrom on GEnie

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From: welchg@cs.unc.edu (Gregory Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.whistleblowing
Subject: Re: NSA Grant Misused
Date: 8 Jun 1993 12:59:43 GMT
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My God Karen, I would hope that nobody would "flame" you!  Nobody should have
to go through what you did, but unfortunately it happens.  The world has enough
problems without people like your old employer adding their garbage.  Good for
you for being strong & courageous enough to do something.  My hat is off to
you.

I have a few suggestions/comments inserted below.  But *most* importantly,
I *strongly* suggest that you contact:

Project on Government Oversight
2025 I Street, NW
Suite 1117
Washington, DC  20006
202-466-5539

(this should be placed in a FAQ or such for this group...?)

Ask to speak to someone about your situation, and ask them to send you some
literature about their organization (they have a booklet, etc.)  They may
be able to help you obtain legal help (ACLU?) etc.  Best of all it will do
you good to know that there *are* people, even organizations, who are trying
to stop the waste, abuse, fraud, etc.

Some background:

"The Project" (as they like to refer to it) is a non-profit organization that
has been around for several years (previously called the Government
Accountability Project or GAP.)  I have worked with them in the past (a guy
named Keith Rutter in particular -- don't know if he's still there) and feel
that they are a *great* source for help in a situation like yours.  In fact,
that's all they do, full-time, is assist "whistleblowers" in correcting or
exposing such problems.  This organization has access to government officals
(congressmen & women, etc.) as well as other legal & publicity entities.

Their goal is to assist people like you (and me it so happens) in addressing
such problems in the most *effective* manner.  In other words, they are
experienced in working quietly with people like us (reading this group) to
accomplish as much as possible, without causing one to become a martyr for
the cause.  And when "quiet" is no longer appropriate, they will also help
doing whatever is necessary.

The organization also maintains an extensive network of past whistleblowers,
and experts in various fields who are happy to assist (e.g. with problems
that are of a particular technical nature.)

BTW, you just made me realize that I need to contact them to see if they
can read (or are already reading) this news group somehow.  Boy, I wish this
group was around when I was in a similar situation.

Now, a few posting-specific comments...

In article <C8AAvw.LA8@news.Hawaii.Edu>,
lofstrom@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Karen Lofstrom) writes:
[stuff deleted]
|> 
|> Several people have advised me to sue.  There is a law forbidding
|> the firing of whistleblowers.  However, the damages to be
|> to be recovered might be slight, given that it was a low-paying clerical
|> job, and I would have to pay for the suit out of my own pocket.  
|> 

Most certainly ask the people at "The Project" about this.  It *sounds* like
you have a pretty tight case (caveat: I'm *not* a lawyer :-) ).  Anyway, it
*is* against the law for anyone to seek retribution against someone in your
situation.  It is also possible that punitive damages could be awarded (not
sure) in which case you might get enough to make the disruption to your life
a little more tolerable.  Besides, if you could get the ACLU (or such) to
represent you, the greatest accomplishment might be to publicize your case,
giving hope to those in similar situations, and cause to worry to other
would-be thieves.

|> The NSA didn't renew the grant. However, they didn't do anything to crack
|> down on my ex-boss.  He stole approximately $100,000 from the taxpayers,
|> and he's going to get away with it.  
|> 

Boy, not if we can help it! I will call "the project" today to let them
know about the net.  Please send me mail if you want me to mention your
name & situation, I could ask them to contact you if you want.

[stuff deleted]
|> I keep asking myself, what could I have done differently?  I do wish that
|> I had been on the net then, that this topic had existed, and that I could
|> have gotten some advice from other whistleblowers.  I wish that I'd
|> contacted the press as soon as I was fired, rather than trying to be "nice".
|> 

Don't look back too much, it may not be over yet.  You may still be able to
do something about this.

|> I'd like some discussion of this, but I would hope that it could be
|> productive.  It wouldn't make me feel any better to have peoplle flaming
|> for being stupid about this or that, given that _I'm_ the one who paid the
|> price for trying to do the right thing. 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>  ----- Karen Lofstrom           lofstrom@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu
|>                                 K.Lofstrom on GEnie

Thanks for the most meaningful posting to this newsgroup yet, and thanks for
doing what you did.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
GREG WELCH                                    | Email: welchg@cs.unc.edu
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill   |
Department of Computer Science                |
Room 323, Sitterson Hall                      |
Chapel Hill, NC 27599                         |

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From: lofstrom@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Karen Lofstrom)
Subject: Re: NSA Grant Misused
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Thanks all, for the appreciative posts and the E-mails of support that I
received.  No flames.  Why was I expecting them?  Perhaps because I felt
that I had been a bit naive in expecting the government to police itself,
without the glare of outside publicity to force it to do the right thing.  
So the question I put up for discussion is: when should a whistleblower go
the media?  How?  

If we can get a number of other whistleblowers posting here, or people
from organizations that support whistleblowers, perhaps we can create some
group wisdom about how to blow the whistle _effectively_.  I certainly
could have used some informed advice when I started.

Someone upstream asked what the grant was funding.  Nothing classified. 
Something that was actually beneficial and socially benign.  It was to
help high-school age immigrants from Asian and especially SE Asian
countries maintain their first languages.  Eventually useful to the NSA,
as providing a pool of possible translators, but also good for the kids
involved.  That's one reason I wanted to step lightly. 

--
--- Karen Lofstrom           lofstrom@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu
                             K.Lofstrom on GEnie