From: Stanton McCandlish <anton@hydra.unm.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 07:10:10 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Jimbo B. responds again!
Message-ID: <9306171409.AA13003@hydra.unm.edu>
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Faced with the "charge" of selling out the govt, by "supporting Clipper"
(more specifically for granting a license to them to use RSA's patented
encryption in the key escrow scheme [as far as I can tell; I don't read
legalese too well]), RSADSI/PKP's head Jim Bidzos responds thusly:

Quoth Jim Bidzos, verily I saith unto thee:

> From jim@RSA.COM Wed Jun 16 15:37:37 1993
> 	id <AA12154>; Wed, 16 Jun 1993 15:37:34 -0600
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 14:35:49 PDT
> From: jim@RSA.COM (Jim Bidzos)
> Message-Id: <9306162135.AA17052@RSA.COM>
> To: anton@hydra.unm.edu
> In-Reply-To: Stanton McCandlish's message of Wed, 16 Jun 1993 13:26:42 -0600 (MDT) <9306161926.AA06434@hydra.unm.edu>
> Subject: hmph
> 
> 
> Well, I don't know where these things get discussed, but you can
> certainly feel free to resend or post my email to you. I'm genuinely
> confused, as I believe the situation is as simple as I put it to you.
> Our claims of patent infringement by DSS, made over the last 18
> months, were well-known and publicized.  NIST has capitulated.  Seems
> pretty straightforward to me.
> 
> BTW, on Clipper, ATT, Motorola, IBM could have done Clipper without
> ever talking to us.  Contrary to popular belief, we don't dictate
> terms to licensees.  So, with their RSA or Diffie-Hellman licenses,
> these companies could have simply replaced DES with Clipper
> (continuing to use RSA for Clipper key management) and supported
> Clipper without ever talking to us.  (In fact, I believe this is
> exactly what ATT did, as they had a DH/DES phone before they "joined"
> the Clipper club.)  Clipper will not fail or succeed because of any
> Public-key patent license.  It will go away simply because it was
> ill-conceived, ill-timed, and undesirable.
> 
> 
> --Jim
> 


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