From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 09:28:16 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Your signature line
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A response to my .sig forwarded to the list because this is a "hot" issue
with cypherpunk implications. My improved HSA93 .sig:
"The $1,000,000,000,000 a year Health Security Act of 1993 -- the most
expensive government program in the history of mankind."
The response:
W >1 Trillion 1993-dollars is about 300 billion 1980-dollars - how much
W >was the government spending then?
I don't think prices have increased by more than 300% since 1980. General
price inflation during most of the 80s was in the 4% or lower range per
year. During the '80s, the Fed and State governments spent about 40% of
the US health care dollars. Total 1992 spending public & private was
circa $850 billion. Which would make government spending about $350
billion which I think it was. By January 1, 1997 when HSA93 is due to take
full effect, health spending including inflation and the $70-$100 Billion
in extra annual spending Slick Willie has plotted will push annual health
spending up to circa $1,000,000,000,000.00 per annum.
Granted, my .sig is marketing puffery. Note it does *not* say that the
government will spend $1x10^12, but since the *program* is designed to
encompass the whole health "system" it is correct to characterize the cost
(to someone) of the program as $1x10^12 per year. They want the credit,
they deserve the blame.
W >World War II was much more expensive - maybe fewer direct dollars
W >(even inflation-adjusted), but the cost in human lives was
W >staggering, and even if you only value those lives in terms of lost
W >earnings and losses to the market from lost consumption, that's a huge
W >cost. (Don't know what it is, but it's likely to be much larger than
W >the $1T/year times the 2-3 more years before Clinton gets thrown out on
W >his ear :-)
WWII was over in 5 years. HSA93 (like a baseball game) *could* go on
forever. Also, we don't know how many people have died because of medical
regulation (though, of course, medical regulation is larger in scope even
than HSA93). Could be more than WWII.
I don't expect the system to last that long, however.
Duncan Frissell
"If they want a name give them a name, if they want an address give them
an address, if they want an SSN give them an SSN, if they want a Health
Security Smartcard programmed with your entire medical and psychiatric
history + xrays + CAT scans + MRIs + your genotype; give them a puddle of
melted aluminum."
--- WinQwk 2.0b#0
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