1993-09-12 - RC2/RC4 were uninfluenced by NSA, says Ron Rivest

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From: gnu (John Gilmore)
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From: gnu (John Gilmore)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 93 22:53:16 PDT
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Subject: RC2/RC4 were uninfluenced by NSA, says Ron Rivest
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I claimed that RC2 and RC4 were derived in a process that involved
NSA asking that it be weakened in various ways.  This was a deduction
based on some apparently false information of mine.  Ron has set
me straight.

Please forget what I told you about RC2 and RC4...mea culpa.

	John

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From: rivest@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Ron Rivest)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 16:52:35 EDT
Message-Id: <199309102052.AA02268@swan.lcs.mit.edu>
To: gnu@toad.com
Subject: Crack DES in 3.5 hours for only $1,500,000! 

Hi John --

Glad to see you're high-lighting Wiener's work; I think it is very
important that people see it...

Re RC2 and RC4: NSA had absolutely no influence on the design of
either algorithm; they are entirely of my own creation.  I'll take the
credit for their strengths, or the blame for their faults.  Please
take the trouble to correct any misimpressions you may have given
people. (I don't know who you sent your mail to...)  I have no
information on what sort of brute-force attack machines NSA has in its
basement, but it is certainly the case that, as I said before, nothing
in either design was affected by NSA or its capabilities.  These
algorithms are designed to be very good algorithms, but with a
variable key-size, so that you could try to get out of NSA the biggest
key size you could for export.  

I really don't like your spreading false information about
my work, and wish you would take the simple step of talking to me
first; I'll be happy to talk to you.  

(Feel free to repost this, in its entirety...)

	Cheers,
	Ron Rivest

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