From: baumbach@atmel.com (Peter Baumbach)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: baumbach@atmel.com (Peter Baumbach)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 16:07:46 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: the public key minefield
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[my silly public key example deleted]
> No, because of the language in the patent which requires that it be
> infeasible to find the deciphering key from the enciphering key. Here's
> the claim, from patent 4218582, that covers all of public key cryptography:
>
> 1. In a method of communicating securely over an insecure communication
> channel of the type which communicates a message from a transmitter to
> a receiver, the improvement characterized by:
> providing random numbers at the receiver;
> generating from said random numbers a public enciphering key at the
> receiver;
> generating from said random numbers a secret deciphering key at the
> receiver such that the secret deciphering key is directly related to
> and computationally infeasible to generate from the public enciphering
> key;
> communicating the public enciphering key from the receiver to the
> transmitter;
> processing the message and the public enciphering key at the
> transmitter and generating an enciphered message by an enciphering
> transformation, such that the enciphering transformation is easy to
> effect but computationally infeasible to invert without the secret
> deciphering key;
> transmitting the enciphered message from the transmitter to the
> receiver; and
> processing the enciphered message and the secret deciphering key at
> the receiver to transform the enciphered message with the secret
> deciphering key to generate the message.
Doesn't a patent have to have enough information for a person skilled
in the art to construct a prototype?
I publish for the first time here my invention. I will patent it within
a years time.
Striped Vegetables
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This isn't enough for anyone to do anything. If I were more specific, I
might have something patentable, but then by claims wouldn't be as broad.
If you figured out how to make an anti-gravity device. That device would
be patentable. The concept of "anti-gravity" device is not patentable.
If I could duplicate the effect of your anti-gravity device without using
any of the same novel mechanisms. My device would be separately patentable.
Peter Baumbach
baumbach@atmel.com
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