From: gnu (John Gilmore)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 00:16:34 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Four new alt-groups on government agencies we love to hate
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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.org.batf
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.politics.org.batf
Control: newgroup alt.politics.org.batf
Date: 6 Sep 1993 20:23:46 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Message-ID: <26g68i$bgh@nntp.hut.fi>
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)

The topic of the group is the discussions and information on the
politics and activities of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and
Firearms.

For your newsgroups file:
alt.politics.org.batf	Politics of the U.S. firearms (etc.) regulation agency

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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.org.cia
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.politics.org.cia
Control: newgroup alt.politics.org.cia
Date: 6 Sep 1993 20:46:58 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Message-ID: <26g7k2$c9u@nntp.hut.fi>
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)

The topic of the group is the discussions and information on the
politics and activities of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.

For your newsgroups file:
alt.politics.org.cia	Politics of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency

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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.org.nsa
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.politics.org.nsa
Control: newgroup alt.politics.org.nsa
Date: 6 Sep 1993 20:52:36 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Message-ID: <26g7uk$cmo@nntp.hut.fi>
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)

The topic of the group is the discussions and information on the
politics and activities of the U.S. National Security Agency.

For your newsgroups file:
alt.politics.org.nsa	Politics of the U.S. National Security Agency

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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.org.covert
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.politics.org.covert
Control: newgroup alt.politics.org.covert
Date: 5 Sep 1993 21:46:23 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Message-ID: <26dmnf$ksb@nntp.hut.fi>
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)

As proposed in alt.config 2 Sep 1993.

The topic of the group is various organizations around the world
engaging in paramilitary action, intelligence, spying, covert
operations, ie. the "dark side" of governmental action or action
supported by governments but secret to nearly all citizens.  What kind
of political power do these organizations hold?  How do they use it?
Are they a threat to governments by the people or a threat to freedom
and democracy?  Are they "a necessary evil" in an unperfect world?

For your newsgroups file:
alt.politics.org.covert		Covert ("spook") organizations around the world

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