1993-10-14 - Re: DES

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From: “Perry E. Metzger” <pmetzger@lehman.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1993-10-14 18:11:58 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 11:11:58 PDT

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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 11:11:58 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: DES
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wonderer says:
> I don't think it takes the cube of it. There are 56 bits in
> one key, and 112 bits in two keys, so there could not be
> an entropy of more than 112 bits to triple DES. It is no
> more cryptographically secure than double DES because it
> uses 2 keys.

In spite of the "standard" most people do triple DES with three keys.
With the two key system, it would take T^2+T time to do the
calculation, where T is the time to crack single DES on your machine.

Perry





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