From: Arthur Chandler <arthurc@crl.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 15:09:12 PST
To: Douglas Barnes <cman@IO.COM>
Subject: Re: Info on L.Detweiler
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  If the publication of this information is intended as a prelude to the 
RL persecution or harassment of Mr. Detweiler, I want to lodge a strong 
dissenting opinion. Mr. Detweiler's posts, made in an open forum, are his 
opinions on a number of matters relevant to the social implications of 
encryption and privacy. If we disagree with his views, we can post 
responses, or simply ignore them. Once anyone see's L. Detweiler on the 
header of any post, he or she has a pretty good idea of the tenor of 
what's coming. If you know it's going to enrage you, then why bother 
reading it?
  I personally think that, under the avalanche of rhetoric, he 
raises some very germane issues. I would miss him if he left. But even if 
I thought him 100% mistaken, I wouldn't endorse posting RL information 
about him so that people unhappy with his views could contact Mr. 
Detweiler's associates to complain about him. 

On Mon, 15 Nov 1993, Douglas Barnes wrote:

> > post them publicly as a matter of course.  (Have you returned
> > the favor?  Does anybody know Detweiler's phone number?).  You
> 
> Here's some info folks might appreciate (all numbers area code
> 303, unless otherwise noted):
> 
> Lance is the college of engineering subdomain.
> Scott Douglas (lance sysadmin) scott@lance.colostate.edu 491-7954
> College of Engineering Dean's Office: 491-6603 (Dr. Jorge Aunon)
> Vice President, Student Affairs (discipline): 491-5312 (Keith Miser)
> ACNS switchboard (Computation center) 491-5133 (Gary Edelen)
> ACNS Consulting Desk 491-7276
> CSU Information 491-1101
> Degree Verification 491-7159
> 
> Hold off for a bit on these numbers; it's still not clear who (if anyone) 
> is really responsibile for him now. 
> 
> I had a very productive talk with Gary Edelen who (like me) is not pleased 
> that state funds are going to subsidize someone's highly disruptive, insane, 
> quasi-religious rants; he's contacting Scott Douglas, who is apparently the 
> administrator of record for the lance subdomain. 
> 
> Lawrence Detweiler was awarded a BS in Engineering Science in Spring 
> of 1993.
> 
> LD's finger: 
> ------------
> 
> Notes:
> He is no longer listed with student information or as a staff/faculty 
> member, nor is he listed with 303 directory; there is no L. Detweiler 
> listed in Fort Collins anymore, or in Denver/Boulder, although there 
> is a Jeff Detweiler listed in the 1991 phone book; a call to 498-8278 
> got an answering machine, 491-5893 forwards to the Kater Laboratory 
> Optical Core.
> 
> The 1-5893 number is for the Department of Anatomy, Dennis Giddings 
> (staff member). LD apparently worked for the Kater Laboratory as an
> hourly student. 
> 
> Rene Olson (491-6849) used to be his supervisor, but could not be reached 
> for comment.
> 
> ---------------------------------
> [longs.lance.colostate.edu]
> Login name: ld231782  			In real life: L. Detweiler
> Phone: 15893, 498-8278
> Directory: /users/UNGRAD/ES/ld231782	Shell: /bin/tcsh
> Most recent logins:
> 	parry        Fri Nov 12 22:20
> 	mears        Thu Nov 11 15:42
> 	jenkins      Sat Nov 13 21:11
> 	casco        Mon Nov 15 01:02
> Never logged in.
> No Plan.
> --------------------------------
> 
> Note that this is just the easy stuff, I have folks digging deeper.
> More to come...
> 
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