1993-12-13 - Re: Digital cash announced today by UK bank.

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From: cypher01@eternity.demon.co.uk (Russell Earl Whitaker)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: cypher01@eternity.demon.co.uk (Russell Earl Whitaker)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 23:14:49 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Digital cash announced today by UK bank.
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In message <199312091906.TAA22687@an-teallach.com> gtoal@an-teallach.com writes:
> Apparently the Natwest Bank (or some spoonerism thereof) announced
> today that they were releasing digital cash in the form of some
> sort of smartcard.  I have no more details - does anyone else?
>

I saw this a few days ago in the Guardian.  Big front page
splash, and lots of radio coverage.  The system is called
"Mondex".  I'm looking into it, myself, as I know about as much
as you do.

Midlands Bank is cooperating in the scheme, which is not
surprising, as they already have shared-ATM agreements.
 
> Primarily I'm interested in knowing if it's *anonymous* digital
> cash - knowing our govt, I suspect it's unlikely to be.  Any new
> opportunities to track the masses are always gratefully received
> by the powers that be...
> 

Interestingly, none of the press coverage even mentioned the
*issue* of privacy.  I've told Tom Burroughes at the East
Anglian Daily Times (tom@reptile.demon.co.uk); he's deputy chief
reporter there, and was a speaker at ECFP '93.  He's looking
into it now; if you wish to speak to him, call 0473-230-023 and
ask for him in the newsroom.  He may be out, as he's also chief
court and legal reporter, but he always calls back.

I'll be calling Australia in a few minutes to see if I can raise
Simon Davies, who's out there on business.  Simon
(davies@privint.demon.co.uk) is director of Privacy
International, and was another ECFP speaker... the most
well-connected privacy advocate I've ever met.

> G
> 
> 

-- 

Russell Earl Whitaker                   whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk
Communications Editor                                 AMiX: RWhitaker
EXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought
Board member, Extropy Institute (ExI)
    Co-organizer, 2nd European Conference on Computers, Freedom and
    Privacy, London, October 1994







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