From: drzaphod@brewmeister.xstablu.com (DrZaphod)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 94 22:13:17 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: PGP posting validation
In-Reply-To: <9401170109.AA26968@gold.chem.hawaii.edu>
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	--I said--
> > 	Hmm.. this would allow us to prove that THE LIST thinks he's
> > who he says he is.. or who THE LIST tells us he is.. Now, I am not
> > paranoid against THE LIST, but I suggest that THE PEOPLE should
> > not filter THEIR thoughts.  What of censorship [on an aside, is there
> > a censor apprenticeship?  Why the 'ship?']!?  If you must censor.. 

	--Jim says--
> As to why you might want to check against a list, consider it private and
> a priviledge to participate in.

	Sounds along the lines of "It's a privilage, not a right"
	[granted, this is a privately run list.. but that's not
	 what we're about.. at least that's what I've been led
	 to believe]
	
> Bottom line, don't you want to know that the person you think you are respondingto today is the same person you were communicating last week etc?  Don't you
> want to keep someone from pretending to be you and sending out opinions etc.
> which might damage your reputation or misrepresent you?  

	I want to know that the people I'm talking to are the people I
think they are.. and that is why I do my own authentication, when I can.
If I trust the machine to do it for me, then I've just shot two large
holes in my objective. [THE LIST database could me tampered with;  The
PGP sigs could be forged from the start]

> This is NOT censorship
> i.e. it does NOT stop you from expressing your views, it only ensures that a
> message which appears to be from you really IS from you.

	It IS censorship if people's posts are trashed because
they are either anonymous or a forger.. even forged posts are
sometimes important.. See my other posts regarding LIST authentication,
not filtering.

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