From: nobody@jarthur.claremont.edu
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 94 16:11:14 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: No Subject
Message-ID: <9402200010.AA26543@toad.com>
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checking out the hacktic remailer 
one cant telnet... a check of DNS A records shows




> set type=mx
> hacktic.ml

hacktic.ml      preference = 10, mail exchanger = orstom.orstom.fr
orstom.orstom.fr        inet address = 192.33.151.1
>
A trace route to hacktic.nl shows
 4  San-Jose2.CA.Alter.Net (149.20.1.2)  3140 ms  290 ms  290 ms
 5  San-Jose1.CA.ALTER.NET (137.39.44.1)  270 ms  260 ms  280 ms
 6  San-Jose3.CA.ALTER.NET (137.39.101.97)  270 ms  2570 ms  280 ms
 7  Falls-Church1.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.128.6)  330 ms  360 ms  370 ms
 8  Amsterdam.NL.EU.net (134.222.5.1)  510 ms  440 ms  450 ms
 9  Amsterdam.NL.NL.net (134.222.24.2)  440 ms  460 ms  460 ms
10  annex01.NL.net (193.78.240.65)  460 ms  450 ms  530 ms
11  * annex.hacktic.nl (193.78.33.99)  4460 ms *
12  193.78.33.41 (193.78.33.41)  4980 ms  2440 ms  2390 ms

Note also the nslookup to 

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    hacktic.nl
Address:  193.78.33.42
 MX Records pointing to a French site for ANONYMOUS REMAILER
traffic is about as trustworthy as one in the Singapore Police HQ building
 traceroute orstom.orstom.fr
traceroute to orstom.orstom.fr (192.33.151.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 4  t1-1.San-Francisco-cnss11.t3.ans.net (140.222.11.2)  290 ms  270 ms  280 ms
 5  mf-0.San-Francisco-cnss8.t3.ans.net (140.222.8.222)  270 ms  260 ms  280 ms
 6  t3-0.Chicago-cnss24.t3.ans.net (140.222.24.1)  320 ms  310 ms  350 ms
 7  t3-0.Cleveland-cnss40.t3.ans.net (140.222.40.1)  2440 ms  320 ms  330 ms
 8  t3-1.New-York-cnss32.t3.ans.net (140.222.32.2)  330 ms  330 ms  340 ms
 9  t3-1.Washington-DC-cnss56.t3.ans.net (140.222.56.2)  340 ms  340 ms  350 ms
10  mf-0.Washington-DC-cnss58.t3.ans.net (140.222.56.194)  2480 ms  350 ms  350
ms
11  t3-0.enss145.t3.ans.net (140.222.145.1)  340 ms  340 ms  340 ms
12  192.203.229.245 (192.203.229.245)  340 ms  350 ms  460 ms
13  icm-dc-1-S13-T1.icp.net (192.157.65.18)  430 ms  2910 ms  360 ms
14  Paris-EBS2.Ebone.NET (192.121.156.201)  440 ms  440 ms  460 ms
15  Renater-RBS1.Ebone.NET (192.121.156.227)  430 ms  440 ms  440 ms
16  192.93.43.122 (192.93.43.122)  440 ms  2860 ms  470 ms
17  192.93.43.18 (192.93.43.18)  430 ms  460 ms  440 ms
18  192.93.43.89 (192.93.43.89)  450 ms  460 ms  500 ms
19  192.93.43.73 (192.93.43.73)  430 ms  470 ms  450 ms
20  193.50.61.241 (193.50.61.241)  460 ms  450 ms  470 ms
21  193.50.61.18 (193.50.61.18)  540 ms  700 ms  480 ms
22  193.48.170.21 (193.48.170.21)  560 ms  470 ms
23  ws62-b.cnusc.fr (131.196.4.62)  450 ms  440 ms  470 ms
24  orstom.orstom.fr (192.33.151.1)  560 ms  560 ms  570 ms




********************* NOW wait just a GODAMN Minute...
Anonymous remailer traffic  for a Dutch Remailer 
is being handled in DAMN France.. where
the Surete has a history of electronic spying... just WHAT in HELL is
going on with the HACKTIC Remailer?????
I DONT like the way this smells...


     anon