From: "K. Sheppard" <kshep@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 15:51:31 PST
To: qwerty-remailer@netcom.com
Subject: Re: Tracking Contacts with Clipper
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On Mon, 14 Feb 1994 qwerty-remailer@netcom.com wrote:

> Sandy wrote,
> "Tim asked about "phone remailers" in one of his recent posts.  Until that
> happens, remember that the anonymous phone cards offered by AT&T and
> Western Union (and others) are almost as good.  This is especially true
> if you "chain" call through two or more different phone cards."
> 
> Please post details of these. How do they charge you then? Must you use
> a phonebooth?
>  
>  -=Xenon=-


You don't "charge". You buy a pre-paid card for a set amount of money or 
minutes. For example Safeway was selling "certificates" good for 30 
minutes of long distance for $5. Then you dialed the providers number, 
entered your certificate number, then dialed in the number you wanted to 
reach. Much like using MCI 14 years ago. Using a phone booth, would add 
security. I don't know what type of logs would be kept by the provider. 
Obviously if they kept a log with caller id info plus the number dialed 
then they wouldn't be very secure, espicially since the fact that you 
dialed the provider would be recorded. If a pen register was used on 
your line, all the info. dialed in would be recorded, including the final 
destination number. This would of course be true of a wiretap also. Pen 
registers are more common than full scale wiretaps. Use a pay phone, in 
concert with the pre-paid cards for maximum security. But of course, the 
security of the line on the other end is not guaranteed either. Thus, the 
need for non-clipper voice encrption asap.
 

Kirk Sheppard

kshep@netcom.com

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