From: "W. Kinney" <kinney@bogart.Colorado.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 22:33:46 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Dorothy Denning
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Robert Cain Writes:

>What has not been discussed here very much and what I felt going into
>the conversations with these people is that they *can't* tell us what
>they are afraid of.

Theodore Ts'o writes:

>So if the cat really is out of the bag, then the government should give
>up on this ill-conceived Clipper abortion as soon as possible.  The fact
>that the Clipper propoents may actually be recognizing the hopelessness
>of their task this is a sign of hopefulness or a sign of great danger;
>the question is whether they will act like rational human beings, or a
>cornered animal.

I think this is very perceptive. Clipper is perhaps the best they could 
_think_ of given an outmoded set of axioms. If the presumptions people in 
government have about their own role are no longer valid, they probably 
don't fully realize it yet, or at least can't admit they do. Clipper is 
just the kind of woefully clueless thing people in that position would come 
up with.

It is kind of scary. Yikes.

                             -- Will




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