From: Wayne Q Jones <qjones@infi.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:38:24 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: I have FOIA'd the Clipper Key Escrow databases
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I used to work for the govt and I could classify anything by just writing 
either secret confidential of Foyes. It doesnt take much to classify.
As an EE in ECM plexing noise is easy. Decrypting just takes the Massives
a few hours longer. I just work for a living ,Ithink for myself.
Wayne

On Sun, 27 Feb 1994 wcs@anchor.ho.att.com wr
> Steve Bellovin writes:
> > Good strategy.  I still wonder if the decrypted keys are (all) classified,
> > while the encrypted ones aren't.  After all, the local cops' magic decoder
> > boxes can strip off that layer of encryption (as, of course, anyone
> > who steals one of those boxes or bribes a local cop).
> 
> I'm puzzled by the applicability of "classification" here.
> The NSA can classify stuff, since they're part of the military,
> and a few other government agencies can (State Dept., I think?),
> but are NIST and Treasury able to do so?  (Assuming, of course,  that we
> maintain the charade that the NIST and NSA are separate for crypto purposes.)
> I don't think they can, and if they could, they wouldn't be able to give
> any of the classified stuff to regular local cops.
> If things become classified by the NSA handling them at key-setting time,
> then they can't give them to the so-called escrow agencies,
> or if they do, those agencies can't give them to uncleared people.
> 
> Perhaps the NSA's secret backdoor mechanisms in the key-setting process
> are classified, since the nation would feel very insecure if they knew
> about them, but that's a separate issue.
> 
> Keys for batches of chips the NSA burns for use by Defense Department users
> are a different story, and probably have a different Family Key
> than civilian-wiretapping keys, but they're probably handled under
> entirely different rules anyway.
> 
> > Anyway, I hope the idea works, or at least drives them a bit crazy...
> 
> 
> 		Bill
> 

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