From: Mike Markley <mmarkley@microsoft.com>
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From: Mike Markley <mmarkley@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 10:30:30 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: How Many Games of Chess?
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| Subject: Re: How Many Games of Chess?
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| >This is tangentially related to crypto. I've been reading A.K. Dewdney's
| >I was glancing through the chapters on complexity,
| >computabilty, and minimax trees, and I got to wondering something: how
| >many possible games of chess are there? I know that it has to be a finite
| >number, but I'm not sure how to go about finding this number. Any
| >pointers would be appreciated.
|
| It doesn't seem to me that this _can_ be readily calculated in any
| reasonable amount of time. It's not a simple (realtively) combinatorial
| problem: the configuration of the board at any given point limits the legal
| moves in an extremely nontrivial way.
|
| I believe I can get you as far as the second move, though: I make it to be
| twenty-one possible openings and twenty-one responses.
|
| --
| Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
| C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
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|
I seem to remember from way back in high school that the number of
potential moves by the third set of moves is on the order of billions
of legal moves. I am also pretty sure that it is not exponential but a
factoral growth. I don't think that it is possible to determine every
possible game.
Mike
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