1994-06-10 - Re: Crime and punishment in cyberspace - 3 of 3

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From: Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
To: jamesd@netcom.com (James A. Donald)
Message Hash: f63f3c470b6ccb6d171d0ba00353bda04096f6aadcececd51c096bb2febac378
Message ID: <199406101457.JAA20805@zoom.bga.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1994-06-10 14:59:51 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 07:59:51 PDT

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From: Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 07:59:51 PDT
To: jamesd@netcom.com (James A. Donald)
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment in cyberspace - 3 of 3
In-Reply-To: <199406101425.HAA07044@netcom.com>
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> Edward Hirsch writes
> > Well, that's one view of rights.  However, most attempts to base so 
> > called natural rights (i.e. rights that are somehow intrinsic to human 
> > existence) have been largely unsuccesful.  It's a tough argument to make.
> Not so: In some matters it is a very easy to make.
> While I am very interested in this topic, we have drifted away from
> direct relevance to the cypherpunks mailing list.
I disagree strongly with this view. A implicit assumption with the
entire c-punks/crypto discussion is that we have a right under our
charter to use this technology through our rights to privacy, etc.
While it may not address the technical aspects of crypto it does address
the environment it exists in.  

No man is an island, and neither is crypto...

> My WWW page is primarily about this and related matters.  I urge those
> interested in this topic to access
Nice advertising...

> ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/jamesd/index.html
> For example if you have a text interface to the internet o
> you could type
> lynx ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/jamesd/index.html
> If you have a graphical interface to the internet you could type
> mosaic ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/jamesd/index.html
>  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> We have the right to defend ourselves and our    |
> property, because of the kind of animals that we |         James A. Donald
> are.  True law derives from this right, not from |
> the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.     |         jamesd@netcom.com