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From: blancw@pylon.com
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:45:38 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Voluntary Governments? (Oh, Poleece!)
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Some hidden, subliminal messages which were missed in the reply
to thoughts about the concept of governance (delete if you
don't find this exciting):
> . Who or what is to be governed?
i.e.: Is it a 'what' which needs to be governed, or is it a
'who'?
Is it 'crime' which needs to be governed, or any and
all of the members of that association who generally require
regulation? To simply enter into an association with strangers
for the purpose of being governed is a strange thing to agree
to do; it's like an admission of personal deficiency
("SomeBody Stop Me!"). But of course, most people think that
it will be 'others' who wil be governed, rather than
themselves.
> . What is inimical/destructive and to be
regulated/prevented,
> or what is sacred which is to be upheld?
i.e.: Can the members of the association distinguish
accurately between the good, the bad, and the merely ugly? In
the U.S. it is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
which are to be upheld, but who can say that these are truly
appreciated & successfully defended? The values are listed in
the precious original documents, but the education and the
behavior of the citizens contradicts them.
> . Who is to do all the work of preventing or upholding
> (how do they qualify for the job)?
i.e.: What are the victims going to be doing while their
values are being encroached upon, or ignored? If the job of
self-defense is given up to someone else, their ability to
distinguish 'criminal' behavior from otherwise
innocent/ignorant mistakes, must be established - and who will
be the best judge of this, besides oneself? There is a danger
in that an individual could become intellectually flabby, their
ability to be of practical use in their own regard atrophying
from inactivity. And then who would know who is qualified to
reason on the matter? They could be fooled; they could be led
down to the river to leap in.
> . What is to be done about non-conformists to the rules
> (without contradicting the rules?)
i.e.: People who ask for rules (there oughta be a law) are
the ones most inclided to break them. Rules often substitute
for active intelligence, for the need to think about what one
is doing and the evaluation of the outcome. But it really
becomes absurd to speak of non-conformism in a voluntary
system. If it's voluntary, anybody who doesn't want to follow
the rules can simply leave, they don't have to hang around
waiting for the administration of a 'punishment' of any kind
(anybody who stays doesn't have any self-esteem).
The most important question was overlooked:
. What makes you such an authority on government?
i.e.: What makes someone think that it is alright to put any
one person as an authority over the mind of another? Authority
should be earned through admiration. It is Reality which
should govern one's decisions, not the overshadowing or
overwhelming of one's mental functions by another; it is what
should be recognized as 'the' authority by which to regulate
one's behavior.
Blanc
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