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From: dance@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Squeal)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:59:40 PDT
To: Cyperpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: Voluntary Governments?
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Jim Choate says:
>Can't speak for MIT but I can speak for UT Austin, they do have cells to hold
>prisoners. The security forces at that school attend the Tx Dept. of Public
>Safety training school and hold state law enforcement positions. The last
>thing you want to do is really piss one of these guys, you would end up
>in one of the state prisons for several years, Huntsville probably.
>
>Schools can use physical force against their students. I have personaly seen
>assaults on the presidents office when a group of students took it over in
>the late 80's because of UT Austin holdings in S. Africa. I have seen them
>knock the holy shit out of students for nothing more than simply refusing to
>move fast enough. The officers stormed the office in full riot gear with
>M16 automatic rifles and smoke grenades.
>
>I suspect that MIT's security forces, even though it is a private school,
>hold 'peace officer' ratings and this implies that they can carry weapons
>at any time (though they don't usually). This holds for the small community
>college that I work at now as well. The officers don't carry guns as a regular
>part of their uniform except during registration when there are large amounts
>of cash on campus or when important officials visit the campus(es).
The University of Chicago's Security officers are sworn Chicago police;
they are given full police powers, if only limited jurisdiction. Lucky for
everyone here they choose not to exercise *any* authority.
Trying to neither be foolish nor a lightweight....
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ It's dangerous to be right
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ when the government is wrong.
_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ --Voltaire
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